Why Islamic people seperate them from rest of the World??

(This is written in the orkut community "Green Army" which is formed to transform Pakistan to moderate islamic nation. The community is started by a good friend of mine from Pakistan, Mr. Tanzeel)

I am a strong supporter of individual freedom and cultural independence. I respect the religious feeling too, and I myself is a relious person who respect one's culture and religion as one's identity. But I have a big question to you all, why do Islamic people differentiate between them and the rest?

Whenever there is message from Osama Bin Laden, he always calls for the Islamic people to fight against the american racism and supression.

Saddham Hussein called all the Islamic people to fight the invaders, when many european countries were aginst the invasion along with almost whole of Asia, wouldn't it be better had he called whole world to fight aginst this american aggression??

I am from Nepal, the only hindu kingdom of the world. The only non-secular state in the world where there is national holidays for all the four religions which are practised in Nepal. We have national holiday for Dashera and Dipawali (hindus), Losar(Buddhist), EID (Muslim), and Christmas (Christian). I have very secular feeling and I can openly say that Nepal is one of the most secular state in the world where many higher posts are taken by people of minority religions. Can this ever be seen in Pakistan??

I am following Pakistani news for some yrs and am excited to see the growth of Pakistani economy, but even the official sources show that the percentage population of minority religions are decreasing. Does this in someway show that there is religious racism in Pakistan??

Why did Yosuf Yohana changed to Islam converting his name to Mohammed Yosuf? Saying that its his personal choice is like saying press freedom by Europeans in cartoon controversy. What is the hidden reason behind this??

Lastly, the question to Tanzeel specially, why do u want to see Pakistan as "Moderate Islamic Nation" and not as "Modern Secular Nation"? Moderate means in the middle, why do u want to be in the middle? Why not complete development or complete modernisation??


Jehanjeb:
hello bhupendra...im from karachi-pakistan and i will try to reply ur questions but im not sure if im the right person to do so cuz ur scrap had lot at one time...so here it goes!

first of all with all due respect to ur religion...muslims n hindus lived together under muslims ruler for quite a few centuries and both faced almost saem invasions form time to time...in those times...things were simpler, lifestyle was simple, greed was there but yet each individual faced a trauma of knowing every other person within the so called city limits. i can not pin point the right time when the sense of individualistic identity rose and had this one poweful sector divided into so many countries...
islam does not teach ne1 to pick guns and create their own boundaries...around 1400 years back...at the time of our Prophet...his followers travelled great distances to spread the message of Islam...not to conquer countries. yes there were war fought at that time...even among muslims but those were between right and wrong. not in greed to take away something
now comes present time...today if u just accumulate allw ats hapenin...and narrow ur eyes to see things bit more clear...ull see that everything either done by non-mulsims or other non-muslim country is against Islam. just for reference and no hard feeling...was there ne destruction of mandir b4 indian hindus crushed Babri Mosque...was there ne 9/11 before US got hold of Suadi resources of Oil and still the rampage is going on...

and certainly there was no Usama or Saddam at that time...basic rule of survival...u talk to me...ill reply...u abuse me...ill try to adjust that...u get up and slap me...ull pay for that! but this went beyond abusing or slappin...it came down to sole reason of keepin our families alive...while there are many political decisions made to save our asses, and then there were many for which we are still paying by gulping down sour outcomes. some of our great antion forefather forsaw the coming results of great US built up and they tried till the end of their lives for a one united islamic nation block! well one of the reason for this was also that u look at atlas...Pakistan is the first Islamic country of the whole Islamic belt...if there has to be a bond then we are one for that...once the era of great leaders ended came the corrupt ones who made things worst for this islamic block...their foriegn policies made us break friendships with many islamic countries...we still have one fried and that is China but only God knows till when this wud carry on...!
so u see...us muslims have been pushed by our ownselves to this limit where we cant be part of the whole world and has to create an Islamic Block to survive...which till now is succeeding! ...im keepin ma fingers cross for that! and if u wana see muslims who r not even worth callin humans...do leme know ill give u links to thier thread here on orkut which will open ur eyes of how far some of us have gone just to fuckin please thier Father america!


My REsponse to Jehanjeb:

There is clash of civilisation going on always in this world, and all want the reason to crush other. There are some works done by some people to provoke and if in those acts we get provoked then we are not gaining but giving grounds for other side to act against us. It is in our best interest to be resilent and develop.

See China, it is not disturbed by anything that is going on in the world, its simply following the so called pig policy and its rising. When Talibaan destroyed the world's largest statue of Buddha what did Japanese, Korean or Chinese do? Nothing. China decided to build a new one, and Japan declared a project for the development of Lumbini (Nepal), Birthplace of Gautam Buddha. This has certainly benefitted them. Had they thought the event as attack on Buddhism then they would have lost their resources in fighting the unnecessary war.

The demolition of Babri Masjid was a real bad act of Hinduist govt in India, and they lost the election now and are out of power. Now, the same BJP is getting secular to get muslim's vote. Lal Krishna Advani, the man behind demolition has lost the post of BJP chief in his spate over secularity of Jinnah. All these are due to those extreme hinduist feeling in the party. For their act muslims around the world showing anger and calling for destruction of India, the country with second largest muslim population is nothing more than stupidity. Again what is happenening with the anger and war? The world's wealthiest countries with lot of natural resources are getting worse off. Actually many people do something to ignite the islamic world to control their development, they fear that if nothing nothing is done to disturb the islamic world then muslim population will control world economy and politics with their heavy resources (mainly oil).

I have found an exception in the Islamic world and that is Malaysia. Malaysia is fighting war aginst US imperialism and its attack on Islam but not the way other islamic people are fighting. They are fighting by forming a group, Asean+3+3, they are fighting the war economically and I am sure their latest step of forming World's Largest Economic Zone will be a bigger blow than 9/11 to US. This was a peaceful way and proactive. Malaysia has struggled hard to get its surrounding countries with it and now getting China inside Asean and calling India, Australlia and New Zealand as observer in the Asean+3 meet but excluding US is the victory for Malaysian. But I have hardly found any apraisal for this Hero Islamic Nation by the Islamic people.

Pakistan can follow the same route and go forward with enlarging SAARC and ECO, giving a big blow to the West. Its totally a mad activity what Iran is doing now, its the worst path to follow. West is more powerful than us and we have to admit it, we need to tackle them in cautious and polite way. We have to find differences in them and get their weakness and hit, but in such a way that leaves no marks. 9/11 is the biggest blow not to US but to the Islamic people of the whole world. With it US and its allies have already killed many muslims and invaded two countries. 9/11, 7/9 etc are not proving anything but giving the west chance to say that really the Islamic people are nothing more than terrorists.

I think it will be in the best interest of Islamic world if they can form a free trade zone. It will be better if they can move the way to form Islamic Union like the European Union. But this way doesnot seem to be the priority of any islamic nation.